Re: How to un-dash-subscribe--really!

From: Mike Erdely <mike_at_**********.***>
Date: Tue Mar 11 2008 - 15:20:38 EDT

Adam's post won't make it to the list (he unsubscribed), but mine
will...

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:56:11PM -0400, Dawson, Adam wrote:
> Well, you could say I was immediately able to unsubscribe. But if you
> consider the 3 attached messages, you'll see that my request was
> processed something like 9 months after I first asked to be
> unsubscribed. Not too bad of an accomplishment, all in all. Some
> people conceived and birthed children; I got myself off a mailing list.

Congrats. It took you 9 moths to learn to follow directions.

> You shouldn't feel too bad about yourself, though. You've managed to
> keep up at least the same level of service as the FTC, which hasn't even
> acknowledged, much less addressed, the deluge of messages I've been
> forwarding them from erdelynet for nine months. So..I'll let you know
> if they have an IT job open. Might be a great fit.

Feel bad about myself. Right.
FTC? Yeah. They care about a mailing list that you voluntarily signed
up for but cannot figure out how to unsubscribe. And, emailing
mike@erdelynet.com would have been way too complicated.

Hell, for all I know, your IP address may have previously been
blacklisted because you're a spammer.

> Speaking of, you should check out the British sitcom called "The IT
> Crowd." Very fitting today, not to mention hilarious. It's like "The
> Office" for IT folk. I think you can see some of it on youtube.

...

> At any rate, glad it's working now. I'll quit cluttering up your
> members' mailboxes with my messages. It's been real, everyone.
> Apologies for the mailbox junk. Toodeloo.
>
> From: Keith A. Glass [mailto:salgak@speakeasy.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:16 PM
> To: ssh@erdelynet.com; Mike Erdely
> Cc: Dawson, Adam
> Subject: Re: How to un-dash-subscribe--really!
>
> Sarcasm is a dying art form. OTOH, yelling at one's list-members does
> not generally endear them to you, Mike (evil grin)

This guy (Keith Glass) is currently greylisted. I haven't seen this
message yet. While it is not my intention to be a jerk, I have no
obligation to take abuse from or to endear myself to people using up
my resources for their benefit. I offer this mailing list for you to
use for free. If you run into problems unsubscribing from the list,
I'll happily refund you 100% of what you paid.

> Keith
>
> Security Geek * Curmudgeon at Large * Short on Sleep
>
> On Tue Mar 11 14:07 , Mike Erdely sent:
>
> Wow. And *immediately* after sending this message, you were magically
> able to unsubscribe.
>
> Absentee admin, huh? Anyone who requests to be unsubscribed is almost
> immediately taken care of.
>
> And, sending email to ssh+unsubscribe@erdelynet.com
> <javascript:top.opencompose('unsubscribe@erdelynet.com','','','')> is
> so difficult. I
> just tested the process myself... No problems.
>
> How the hell are you even able to use ssh?
>
> -ME
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Dawson, Adam wrote:
<idiocy snipped>
>
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:09:17 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <adawson@walkerinfo.com>
> Subject: FW: Location changes in registry not reflected in SFTP
> To: mike@erdelynet.com, unsubscribe@erdelynet.com, abuse@erdelynet.com,
> security@erdelynet.com, webmaster@erdelynet.com
> Cc: spam@uce.gov

I never received this message.
Clearly "unsubscribe@" is wrong... But, there was nothing done
intentionally to prevent you from getting off the list. You were
probably blacklisted for some reason.

> What do I need to do to get off of this list? I have tried sending
> email to the unsubscribe address at least twice, with no results.
>
> Look at these best practices from spam.org.
> # Do include a working unsubscribe link or email address on all emails.
> # Do immediately honor unsubscribe requests.
>
> Ideally, you should include a ONE-CLICK opt out.

mailto:ssh+unsubscribe@erdelynet.com (one-click opt out)
I have NO obligation to honor anything. You opted-in.

> Thanks.
>
<more garbage snipped>

> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:46:56 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <adawson@walkerinfo.com>
> Subject: unsubscribe
> To: ssh+unsubscribe@erdelynet.com
>
> i have tried this before. please unsubscribe me.

> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:05:55 -0400
> From: "Dawson, Adam" <adawson@walkerinfo.com>
> Subject: unsubscribe
> To: ssh+unsubscribe@erdelynet.com
>
> please

Again... these messages did not make it to the server. Either that or
you ignored the follow up requiring you to confirm your request.

-ME

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